When you have your children worship with you, there's sometimes a concern about how a Pastor might approach those passages of Scripture that, as parents, we might edit and explain according to the child's maturity.
I remember when our church was interviewing potential pastors how varied the approaches were to having various ages listening to the sermon. One particular candidate obviously forgot there were children in the audience, or perhaps just didn't think that meant he should change what he said. It was the first time I'd hoped our children had been distracted during part of a sermon.
I'm the parent who actually previews certain popular ministers' messages because I know they'll get a bit too detailed. I was starting to think I was crazy since no one else I knew seemed bothered. It was as though those with older children had forgotten what it's like to have younger children listening in on a sermon.
Then I heard Carl Trueman's account of his having shared a bit too much from the pulpit one morning. His wife reminded him that such terminology was inappropriate when children were present. He said he never did that again.
It was just one more reason to like him.
Thankfully, the pastor God gave us shows much discretion in this area. He remembers our church family includes a wide range of ages and maturity, and this Mama's heart is especially thankful I don't have to wish our children had missed parts of his sermons. If you have a pastor like this, you should thank him for it. If you don't, you should consider the value of children hearing detailed accounts of perversions or the intimacy that should only be part of marriage.
This is not about making sex a dirty word to our children. This is about explaining it, not in the crude terms of the world, but in the beautiful way God intended it, not in a church audience, but one on one in private. There are things my children simply don't need to know at age 8, and when they need to know should be something I decide. I know their hearts, their weaknesses, their maturity.
I grew up learning my facts at school or in my church youth group. There was no sheltering or filtering done, and I was the worse for it. Yet, with our children, we discuss things according to age and maturity, and I have found an invaluable openness to discuss these mature matters, for which I am profoundly thankful.
Why is it that we think sheltering and filtering only lead to distorted views of sex?
And I think Trueman is spot on with this observation about explicit sermons and books..
Finally, I wonder if the current passion for producing books and preaching sermons on sex also witnesses to the erosion of the boundary between public and private which is all too obvious in the world around us. Facebook, Twitter, reality TV and the rise of celebrity have each served to turn us all into exhibitionists and to make those who yearn for privacy look like weirdoes and losers. That this is impacting the church from the top down is obvious; and it is at least worth pausing to ask whether sex books and explicit sermons are part of this. It is surely hard to imagine Christian public figures of yesteryear such as Martyn Lloyd-Jones, J I Packer or Carl Henry setting up a website called the `sexperiment' or giving advice on sexual technique from the pulpit.
Read the rest here.
Mamas, God gave us an instinct to protect our children from too much information too soon. We should listen to it.
With love,
Trisha
Making Your Home an Oasis
3 years ago
I really like Truman's article.
ReplyDeleteWe visited a church once where the Sunday sermon was given by a youth worker on the sexual temptations to young men today. I was tempted to walk out but didn't. Thankfully this was 4 years ago, and Lydia was fairly clueless about what was going on. It would have been more fitting to have this discussed with the young men and their dads in their own session, NOT with the entire church.
It bothers me that a good gift from God is made common by seeing how daring we can be in public discussion of something which is private and precious within the sole context of marriage. It often seems to cross the line of Christian liberty and moves into the realm of flaunting our immaturity.
I'm thankful to have a very open relationship with my child. But some things are appropriate now and others aren't. Being careful of what I expose her to isn't repression, it's godly discretion.
"Being careful of what I expose her to isn't repression, it's godly discretion."
ReplyDeleteWonderfully put, Persis!
Very good advice. I'm not too happy with the way everyone wants to talk so openly about sex and things on that subject. I don't mind some talk, but sometimes things get just too detailed! I agree with you!!! I love the pictures of your mother with your children. Beautiful! Enjoy your Christmas if I don't get here again this week!
ReplyDeleteI'm so thankful that this has not been a problem in our church. I do remember Pastor once mentioning at the beginning of the sermon that he was going to talk about something that was not appropriate for children so that parents had the opportunity to decide what to do with their kids. Since he preaches verse-by-verse through the Bible, we know whats coming anyway. Most of the time he does a great job of not going into too much detail (and keeping things vague) when preaching through verses that deal with adult situations.
ReplyDeleteI don't think I've ever heard our pastor talk blunty about sex, probably because it's not something that needs to be broken down an explained for most adults ... or it shouldn't. I think if anyone wanted to know more they would seek out his counsel after service. I have been very appalled by what I've heard in some popular sermons. Some pastors are cursing from the pulpit and over-sharing their personal marriage details. They have even banned children under the 6th grade from the main worship service. I think this is mostly just done for shock value to fill pews.
ReplyDeleteWonderful advice Trisha. I am especially careful with my children as well. Unfortunately, we live in a culture where we are bombarded in this area from every angle. When that happens, people let their guards down on what is appropriate to speak about publicly and that includes men behind the pulpit.
ReplyDeleteI pray your sweet family has a very Merry Christmas!
Love,
Jackie
I hate the way nothing is private anymore. I hate it that what should be kept in the bedroom is plastered everywhere from magazines to billboards, these days. It has become so common that it means *nothing* anymore - it's no wonder people give away their chastity so easily. And I can't believe how young children are taught about it both in schools and in homes these days. I suppose seeing as the TV is the babysitter in many houses, it should come as no surprise that children know *everything* when they are so young.
ReplyDeleteIt disgusts me how far some pastors and Christian teachers go. As far as my opinion is concerned, I don't think sex needs to be taught AT ALL in the church setting. If a couple has questions that they can't answer themselves, they are perfectly capable of approaching someone to ask counsel. It is not a subject that needs to be preached on *EVER*.
It worries me that our preachers might forget there are youngsters in the audience at our chuch services, but the Lord has been good in preventing anything explicit from being said, and I think our preachers are fairly careful, and for that I'm very thankful, too. :)
I'm in the process of reading the book "Keeping Our Children's Hearts" by Steve and Teri Maxwell. What a fantastic book on teaching how to shelter a child from the world. I so would have loved to been sheltered as a child and to have sheltered my children when they were growing up. My daughters are teens now and I feel that it's too late to shelter them from a lot of things, since they have already been exposed. I am implementing some things, but it's so hard now and my spouse doesn't support these ideas.
ReplyDeleteI praise you for teaching your children and sheltering their hearts.
I pray that you and your family have a Merry Christmas!
Blessings to you!
Spot on, Trisha! When we were in Tyler, our pastor was going through a Song of Solomon series, and for three weeks prior he told us that when we got to the passages once they were married, that it would likely be appropriate for kiddos to go to a class during that one. I remember thinking how admirable that was. He said he didn't think some of the things he would talk about would be appropriate for children under 8. And when he got to that point in the series, he didn't even talk about one thing explicitly. I loved his discretion though, and that he was sensitive to what parents might be concerned about their children hearing from the pulpit, because even with care, children can take something they don't understand and distort it. I agree, there is zero need for explicitness, and it's a wise pastor who will take great care to sensitivity for even the 4 year old.
ReplyDeleteAnd as for sheltering, so many talk about that in a negative way and I have to wonder, what in the world could be wrong with shelter as they grow? I view it this way, "Prepare your children for battle BEFORE sending them to war."
I'm adding "Keeping Our Children's Hearts" to my wish list! Thank you for the mention, Momof3girls!