Some sweet blogging friends asked great questions and expressed concerns in regards to my post about Blogging Exhibitionists. I appreciate their graciousness, and because my reply was so long, I thought I'd post my response here. Perhaps others are asking the same questions. I'm preparing myself for the cyber-tomatoes, and I'm reminded that this is one of the reasons I doubt myself every time I hit "publish."
I won't be surprised if I mangle this response, too. I pray you read "grace" in my words. I am not a supermom! Somehow, even if we disagree, I think my friends will still love me with the love of the LORD, since that love is already reflected in their comments.
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Thank you for your questions and concerns. I did not think it appropriate to link to the blog. May God discipline me if I exaggerated anything or misrepresented her position. In the post, she confesses to not keeping her home and not enjoying the presence of her children.This is not a preference issue. This is a heart issue.
What I didn't say: My post wasn't a commentary on the various exceptions of women being outside the home. My example of sharing our struggles without discernment was the issue. For example, someone posting about their anger against God and saying that's just how she is would be another type of blogging exhibitionist. What is the goal of our confessions? To edify others or to get them to agree with our sin (and yes, I believe it's sin to neglect our priority of keeper at home and put other things first. Keeping our homes includes taking care of our children. Why do we have them only to quickly hand them over to others to have them doing the training for us?).
I will say that I think Christian mothers have lost perspective on what it means to be a keeper at home and that we justify all kinds of departures from that picture, not out of necessity, but because we refuse to die to self.
Consider this picture of bearing our cross and dying to self:
"If anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross and follow me" (Mark 8:34). This language, too, is shocking. To first century ears, it does not mean we all must learn to put up with a wart or a disappointment or an obstreperous mother-in-law or an impending mathematics exam: 'We all have our crosses to bear!' No, to first century ears this means you must take the cross- member on your beaten shoulders and stagger to the place of crucifixion and there be executed in blistering agony and shame. To take up your cross means you have passed the point of all possible reprieve, all hope that you will once again be able to pursue your own interests; you are on your way to death, a dishonorable death at that. So for Jesus' disciples to take up their cross, even to take up their cross daily (Luke 9:23), is to say, in spectacularly metaphorical terms, that they are to come to the end of themselves--no matter how costly that death--in order to follow Jesus."
~D.A. Carson
Oh, how far short I am of taking up my cross and coming to the end of myself. But, as a Christian woman, I cannot write things that justify my NOT coming to the end of myself in the name of Christian liberty, knowing, too, the influence my words might have on other women.
Maybe having outside help would have been a great option. In no way would I say that is sin. God knows our circumstances, and there are many situations that require extra help. Yes! And these are wonderful opportunities for the body of Christ to show love to one another in meeting those needs.
But, the point of her post was not the acknowledgement that she needed to learn to do those things necessary to be a better keeper at home and honor the Lord and her family or that she needed a bit of outside help. Her post was a confession of not liking being a stay-at-home Mom and the assertion that Scripture does not say that's what she needs to be.
Older women likewise are to be reverent in behavior, not slanderers or slaves to much wine. They are to teach what is good, and so train the young women to love their husbands and children, to be self-controlled, pure, working at home, kind, and submissive to their own husbands, that the word of God may not be reviled.
Titus 2:3-5
To say we don't like our responsibilities which means we don't have to do them is to open the door to all kinds of sin.
"I don't like to extend hospitality."
"I don't like to change messy diapers or clean toilets."
"I don't like to love my enemies."
Have we forgotten that if we lack joy in our mothering, if we are disorganized and inefficient and detest making plans and making meals, that God's grace is sufficient for these things, too? But how many of us pray, not for the grace to thrive in our circumstances and in our callings, but to instead be removed from them?
I have eight children. I have Crohn's Disease, which is currently a bit active. I have a herniated disc which gives me trouble at the least expected times. I have a husband who drives 3 hours a day total to and from work, usually not getting home until 7:30 or 8:00 at night. I homeschool our children and manage most all household duties. I am the primary disciplinarian. I understand that motherhood is a challenge, and I was not meaning to dismiss those challenges in any way.
When I got married, I didn't even know how to cook rice or make a pot of coffee. After having a couple of children, I realized I was very disorganized and struggled to keep an orderly and clean home. I had to cut the computer and t.v. time, realize my life was not about ME, and then do what needed to be done to keep my home. And yes, it's all by God's grace! I can honestly say I was one of the most selfish women in the world, and I still battle selfishness every moment of every day.
My sister had to work all of her married life because her husband was not responsible enough to support them. Yes, there are women who HAVE to work, but even in this, we've lost sight of what are needs and what are wants.
As you've pointed out, there are so many exceptions, and of course, we extend grace in those circumstances, but we can't constantly trump the norm with exceptions and then excuse women who are just not wanting to discipline themselves to do what needs to be done. This was the spirit of her post. Truly, a woman shouldn't be blogging or doing a host of other things if she can't take care of her home and her family.
If you've written a great post or produced a beautiful piece of artwork for your business, but your children don't have clean clothes, you don't know what they're doing, you have no meal plans, you can't remember the last time you talked to them about the LORD, you're ignoring discipline issues, and you don't even want them around you, then your priorities are wrong.
Our primary responsibility as mothers and wives is our home. If we're able to meet those needs and do other things, great. But, if we're giving up those responsibilities because they depress us or because we just don't like the role God has called us to, it is sin.
Oh, how deceitful our hearts are. We often tell ourselves we're the exceptions to God's Word, and the truth is, we can often use prayer as an excuse to do what we want instead of what God's Word says. There are some issues that don't need to be prayed through because Scripture clearly tells us the will of God. We're to love our enemies. We're to give thanks in all things. We're to extend hospitality to others. And we're to keep our homes. (I had a friend once who told me she just knew God meant for her to have an affair because God brought the man into her life. All she had to do was read the Bible to know she was wrong.)
Instead of accepting "keeper at home" at face value, we want to re-define the obvious.
Elisabeth Elliot makes the point that when we make choices we also accept the limitations of those choices. As women, we often want to do it all. We want to have a husband and a family, work outside the home, have our many hobbies, enjoy a great social life, have "me" time, etc. When God blesses us with a family, taking care of them is our priority. When we said "I do," when we had children, we said "yes" to these things and "no" to others.
Of course, there's nothing wrong with asking for help when we struggle in an area, and it's important to do so. We older mothers should be eager and ready to help the younger ones (though I've often found the younger ones don't want Titus 2 advice), extending grace and practical help and speaking the truth in love.
I hope this has answered your questions and concerns. Thank you for your willingness to express a difference of opinion in a spirit of love.
Much love,
Trisha
Just wanted you to know I am loving your blog posts and linking them on facebook for my young friends who are married with young children. It is so refreshing to see someone who knows the truth and is not afraid to stand up for it. My friends are loving your posts as well. :-)
ReplyDeleteLove your heart my friend. You are a blessing. I am praying for you.
ReplyDeleteMuch Love,
Camille
Oh Trisha, I think maybe you are soo right. It would have been so much better to be able to sit down over tea and talk about this issue face to face. I in absolutely no way want to turn this into any sort of a on-line debate that might cause others to stumble or be confused. I still just feel that reading this particular post for myself would have made it easier for me to discuss what all she was saying. For example I don't think you mentioned the first time, "But, the point of her post was not the acknowledgement that she needed to learn to do those things necessary to be a better keeper at home and honor the Lord and her family or that she needed a bit of outside help. Her post was a confession of not liking being a stay-at-home Mom and the assertion that Scripture does not say that's what she needs to be" I imagine that there was other things that were said that would have made her position a lot clearer in my mind as well. I am not saying that I do not believe that you were not correctly interpreting what she had written. I am very sure you did. Just that I am not comfortable commenting on something I haven't read for myself. As for the issue itself I DO agree. There are many Christian moms (and just moms in general) out there looking for excuses and a way out of their responsibilities and that is just soo sad, and yes sin. And I DO agree also that we must be very very careful of not only what we put out there for others to read, but what we read and believe ourselves. I am very sorry if I offended in just any way at all over this Trisha. Honestly, it was never my intention. Like I said before, I so appreciate your blog and your willingness to say what just needs to be said sometimes. Blessings to you, Debbie
ReplyDeleteTrisha, I was concerned that you were going to retract bit from your first post--so glad you did not. What you are saying needs to be said and I think you said it very well and very lovingly. The quote from D. A. Carson was very applicable here.
ReplyDelete"..but we can't constantly trump the norm with exceptions and then excuse women who are just not wanting to discipline themselves to do what needs to be done."
Yes, and amen. I, for one, needed to hear this rebuke. But many women I know wouldn't want to hear this at all.
"my life was not about ME"
ReplyDeleteThat is a hard lesson that probably every wife and mother will have to learn. It took something very drastic to wake me up, but the joy on the other side is worth it.
Excellent followup post, Trisha!
Wow! I had to scroll back a few days to catch up. It took a lot of courage for you to tackle this!
ReplyDeleteI totally agree with much of what you said. We are in the middle of a very "me" oriented society. I am always stunned when I see a parent putting their own needs before that of their children, though. Unfortunately, that attitude then is passed on through the generations.
I was a stay-at-home Mom when I could be but I had to work for money when my husband was called to the ministry and first had to complete 7 years of schooling. It was one of the hardest things I ever did but I never thought it was sinful.
My husband was home with our children more while he was a student. We sacrificed a lot of our time together because one or the other of us often worked evening hours while the other was with the children. We did everything we could to minimize our time away from them. We also had them in enjoyable Christian environments for the hours they were away from our care.
The way I see it, our children's needs come before our own but the work of God comes before anything. It is difficult to balance this sometimes.
I guess I told you all this, not to justify our decisions, but to emphasize that for some of us, there is more behind the story than others might see from the outside. I think your words needed to be said and I thank you for your courage.
All I could think to add was AMEN. We live in such a ME, ME society, but we really should put others first. Loved your post and can't wait to read more!
ReplyDeleteLisa
Excellent post! I really appreciated what you had to say. I am constantly battling selfishness and laziness. I'm grateful that God is helping me bit by bit to become more and more focused on doing what He's called me to do; being a mom, wife and keeper of my home.
ReplyDeleteLily,
ReplyDeleteThank you for your kind words!
Camille,
Thank you for your prayers! :)
Debbie,
My friend, NO OFFENSE was taken. Not one bit. I appreciate the questions and concerns. They force me to flesh out my own position and consider any errors. Thank you for sharpening me!
Charlene,
I realize that dying to self is such a battle for me. Moment by moment I'm aware of just how selfish I am. Carson's thoughts created a whole new picture for me of what it means to bear a cross and die to self. Thanks for your encouragement.
Persis,
Thank you, my friend. I can say I put my husband through quite a bit of hell in my early years of marriage because I grew up thinking life was about me. I know we're both so grateful for His grace!
Susan,
Thank you for offering that perspective. Some of our closest friends were in seminary for several years, and I remember just how lean the times were. They had to rely a lot on the generosity of others just to get by.
Lisa,
Thank you. I appreciate your visits here.
Dani,
I understand that battle, too, and I'm fighting right along with you. But for His grace! Thank you for visiting and sharing your thoughts.
Most wonderful my dear. Love you!
ReplyDeleteYour blog has been so encouraging to me and I even posted your initial article on Facebook. Thank you so much for reminding us to keep motherhood Gospel centered. I am very thankful for your courage to post all these truths!
ReplyDeleteTrisha,
ReplyDeleteThank you so much for this response. I have never met you and we haven't even communicated often here online, but I have always held you in that Titus 2 mentor role. You share with wisdom and experience and honesty and I appreciate it so much. You have given me much to think about here. Thank you!
Trisha,
ReplyDeleteWhenever I am tempted to say to myself "I have to..." I try to say outloud, "I get to..." - our attitude of thankfulness and humor towards gifts of life can greatly change our perspective of the work of it all- and enable and enjoy the comedy of life. Lest we forget- this life we are living is a comedy - it turns out beautifully and in the Everlasting arms.
I love your thoughts - I so appreciate your life.
Blessings to you, Dear, dear, Sister,
Jojo
I wanted to be home to raise my sons. When my husband walked out on us, my sons were 5 and 3. I went through a time where I resented being left with all of the responsibility of raising our sons while he was doing as he pleased, and how he pleased. My resentment affected how I responded to my sons. I prayed to the Lord, and ask for His forgiveness. I asked the Lord to change my heart. I also knew that my sons had lost their Dad, they didn't need to lose their Mom too. God answered my prayer in that He gave me a deep appreciation for my sons because they were who kept me in line and strong to survive the deep pain I felt. The Lord used verses in Isaiah 54 to encourage and strengthen me.
ReplyDeleteAshleigh,
ReplyDeleteThank you. I love you, too!
Aileen,
Thank you so much for your kind words.
Natalie,
I thank God for your gracious spirit. And I'm so glad you're still here!
JoJo,
Yes! I'm so thankful "I get to.." How humbling it is that God, knowing our wretched frames, gives us the gifts that He does.
Oh Martha,
I am so sorry for your heartache. What a tough job you have had!! I'm so thankful you have loved your boys well, and I pray that brothers and sisters in Christ have ministered to you and your family. Thank you so much for taking the time to comment. I appreciate you.
Trisha-
ReplyDeleteI am so glad that God is using your heart for His ministry-to help others see His word.I have stopped my lotion bar company because of this very reason. I thought I could do that because I was doing it from our home and it would help us out with all our medical bills, but all it was doing was consuming precious time I had for things with my family and making me one tired mom trying to fit it all in. I still do my MK because I use it and even if I don't sell it my family uses it and I can get what I would already be buying cheaper so it saves me money for which I am glad, but I don't have to do anything but place my order when I need it. I have always felt my calling from an early age was to be a wife and mom, there are days I am exhausted to say the least but I would never want that to any different. Being a full time mom can be very tiring but when we are called by God to be a mother, we should fulfill that role with all the love, grace, understanding, support, kindness, and abilites that God gives us. I don't think anyone would disagree that it is difficult some days. There have been times that I have felt so overwhelmed that I would like to go lie down and nap so I could wake up refreshed and ready to tackle it all again, but not once have I ever wished to not be at home with my kids. I think the problem is we live in a society that wants it all- that we try to balance it all so that our family can have it "all" but in doing so we lose what the real purpose for our lives is-the real reason we are here, the calling God has given us.
Love your posts dear friend. Thankful for you and that you are not afraid to say it how you see it.
It has made me stop and take a look at what I am writing and how I voice things from my heart-the written word is a powerful thing-I too would rather sit down and chat-sometimes I think we read between the lines things that aren't there, an attitude, a judgement, a tone of voice that is or isn't there and it creates issues, opinions, whatever that would not have happened if we actually spoke to the person. Always makes me afraid to comment on things. Anways, your post made me stop and rethink my posts and if what I ever write could be taken the wrong way. Thank you sweet friend. I love you and your mamma's heart. Thank you for ministering to my heart once again.
Preach it, sister! I had a sweet gal today say the whole, "You homeschool? I could never do that!" line. I don't do it because it's easy. I don't "enjoy" cooking as much as I wish I would. And dusting in the desert is ridiculous. But this life the LORD has given me and all that is under my realm of responsibility is JOYFUL despite my preferences because of the One it is that I do any of this work for in the first place. And to dwell on all the things I could be dissatisfied over seems to me to be the same as telling Him I'm ungrateful for these children to teach, family to feed and house to clean. I hope someone was willing to step up and gently share a better way with the gal from the aforementioned blog post!
ReplyDeleteNow it's time for me to get the chicken started... *cheesy grin* Keller's chicken, that is.
Well said, my dear sister. I am not a mom but can only agree with the larger principle that you are raising -- and that is dying to self. It's the Christian way -- in motherhood, and in all other areas of our life. And apart from the grace of God, who is fit for such things? All my love to you!
ReplyDeleteParenting isn't for cowards is it? It is extremely difficult work. But, the rewards are eternal and therefore of the utmost importance. I so agree with everything you have said. For two years of my oldest daughter's life, I worked. I was the main income in our family. I quit that job to take on the greatest job I was given…a wife and mother. I have never looked back. The first years were very lean with my main income gone. But, God blessed our obedience…and blessed us with four more children! I homeschool with severe health problems…sometimes I homeschool from the couch because I am too weak to get up. But as long as God gives me breath, this is my station… and I am thankful. Thank you for being courageous enough to say the hard things Trisha!
ReplyDeleteThank you so much for these two posts. You have given me much to ponder the last few days. I totally agree with you that we are often too focused on "me." Your post made me question how my posts appear. Am I "real" and vulnerable with my struggles but not excusing sin in my life.
ReplyDeleteThanks for your insight.
Gina
Very well said.
ReplyDeleteI think when the Apostle Paul said that women are sanctified through childbearing its not the childbearing itself but the process of raising our children to be young men and women who love the Lord that is sanctifying. Its hard work, and it does sanctify us. As you said, its about dying to self.
Its one thing to blog about our struggles or to seek help from our readers, its quite another to present our failures as positive things. In doing so the writer encourage others to embrace the lies of the world and to give up biblical femininity.
Thank you for consistently presenting biblical womanhood here and for encouraging your readers to be diligent in raising little ones to love the Lord.